Elon Musk or no Elon Musk, Tesla is the largest AI play on the market. That’s what legendary investor and CEO of Ark Make investments, Cathie Wooden, informed Fortune editor-in-chief Alyson Shontell on the Most Highly effective Girls Subsequent Gen convention in San Diego on Wednesday.

That must be excellent news to bombastic Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who brazenly abhors AI large ChatGPT. Final month, he teased plans to create a rival chat bot, dubbed TruthGPT, which he stated would lack ChatGPT’s liberal edge. Musk co-founded OpenAI, which created ChatGPT, however he left in 2018. In December, he accused his former firm of “coaching AI to be woke.” (Now, he says he regrets his feedback, and calls himself a “big fool” for leaving OpenAI.)

Fortunate for Musk, his most important firm, Tesla, is headed for greatness in its personal proper in Wooden’s eyes. Wooden’s funding time horizon is 5 years, and her agency is concentrated on 5 exponential progress industries. Tesla sits on the convergence of three of them, she stated: synthetic intelligence, robotics, and autonomous autos. Wooden has boundless enthusiasm for Tesla’s future—which she stated might see “explosive progress” whether or not or not its CEO stays on the helm. 

Tesla is within the pole place (essentially the most useful place on the beginning observe), she defined, because of its sheer magnitude. It has extra knowledge than all the opposite automotive corporations and tech corporations touching transportation—mixed. It has 4 million robots, as Wooden calls them, on the street, constantly accumulating knowledge. Due to its vastness, it has the strongest guess of analyzing “the nook instances, the exceptions, and what causes accidents,” she stated.

Wooden, a long-time Tesla investor, has lengthy maintained that the EV large is headed for the moon. Its deliberate robotaxi fleet rollout can be “one of the vital essential funding alternatives of our lifetimes,” she stated final month, arguing that Tesla inventory will surge over 1,100% by 2027. She’s additionally unperturbed by Musk’s antics which have given a lot of his once-supporters pause.

“I feel there are individuals who gained’t purchase his vehicles now,” Wooden informed Barron’s in January. “But when he does what we expect he’s going to do on the fee facet, there are lots of people who will use economics as their information…and I feel there are much more of these individuals than there are of the naysayers round Twitter.”

In San Diego on Wednesday, Wooden stated she believes the autonomous automobile market will develop “from nothing immediately to $8 to $10 trillion {dollars} in income in 2030, or thereabouts,” she stated. “To place that in perspective, the dimensions of the U.S. economic system immediately is $22 trillion, so we’re speaking about one of many greatest progress engines in historical past.”

“However what’s Tesla with out Elon?” Shontell requested. 

“I feel Elon has set Tesla in movement, definitely its EV facet,” Wooden responded. “He calls Tesla a producer of factories. That’s in movement. AI and autonomous autos are usually not fairly there but; we are saying autonomous goes to take off subsequent 12 months.”